Wednesday, September 22, 2010
Asspie Hater Attacks Jonathan Mitchell
Well, just when I though he was done Blogging, that dumbfuck who calls himself the "Asspie Hater" has attacked yet another curebie, this time Jonathan Mitchell. First of all, this "Asspie Hater" guy doesn't know what he's talking about, because Jonathan's diagnosis is high-functioning autism and not Asperger's syndrome. Also, I don't really get what his supposed message is, since he attacks both curebies and NDs. Attacking NDs is one thing, but attacking curebies for the same reason is just bullshit, and astounding. He apparently knows Joeker, so hopefully Joeker will give me his address so I can sue him for impersonating me. I'll bet it's a matter of time before he impersonates Jonathan, since he tends to impersonate curebies more than NDs.
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I don't know who that is. Can you give me a clue as to how to find this blog? Always looking for new dumbasses, and he probably qualifies. I tried googling it, but got nothing.
Thanks for the link, Ollie. I read most of that, but couldn't stomach it all.
What I want to say is that you should all stop it with the name-calling. You, Timelord, QDan, Scratcher, etc., are being terribly rude to each other, and whatever points anyone wants to make are simply lost in the vulgarities you're passing around. Using them is useless in trying to get someone else to see your point of view, it only makes you enemies.
You should not be enemies, you should be brothers on the spectrum. Ollie may believe some things that just aren't true, he may be incredibly naive about other things, but calling him "douchebag" or anything like that is not going to make him believe anything you say.
Yeah, this "Asspie Hater" is a worthless wanker, a jerk looking for a fight with anyone, anywhere, as long as he's safe behind his monitor. He's really not worth your time to argue with him, so I hope you will have the sense to stop. Unbookmark him, forget about him, leave him to stew in his own diarrhea soup.
I've recently returned from the Hospital, where they took out my gall bladder. I have a new perspective on things. All that crap I read over at Asspie's was pretty damned juvenile, present company not excepted.
"The people over at ND don't seem to think that, though, and they always try to censor us curebies."
I agree with eveything said with the exception to this. The anti-cure camp, and what I say the side that supports meeting halfway between NTs and Auties. The reason we try to refute everything believed by the Pro-Cure side, and make it so people believe our side, is we think that if a cure becomes avalable, society will make it so that parents virtually have no choice but to cure their child no matter where he is on the Spectrum. We believe that if the Pro-Cure side is successful it will destroy our side, and also will cause major detriment to the human race.
If there weren't such major implication involved we wouldn't spend all this energy promoting our belief over yours.
"All a cure would do is alleviate some of the harsher symptoms."
You don't know that.
"I definitely believe in acceptance and understanding, but people who want a cure should have the right to one."
You don't understand Sociology. If there is a cure for Asperger Syndrome and the rest of the Spectrum, people are not going to have any reason to doubt that Aspies are damaged, and need fixing, and therefore there will be pressure to cure all of us. Sure they won't force us to get cured. But what about the next generation?
Parents will have their kids with Aspergers cured and there will be a great deal less of Aspies, which I believe less Aspies will be detrimental to Humanity. And the few parents who would have the balls to say no to curing, would be frowned at for it.
"If it sets off a chain reaction, I see no harm in that because people wouldn't be trying to find good when there is really so little."
Just because you're a pessimist doesn't mean everyone else should be.
Recovering from the cholecystectomy quite well, thank you. Incision sites are only slightly sore, and getting better. Effects of riotous bile in the intestines are gone.
I was never interested in football, the first time I went to catch one, I missed, and then was disgusted by the way it bounced this way, then that way, then another way. Just a stupid ball! I only know enough to know that the Bills are going to lose, lose, lose this year! I like baseball, and favor the Yanks.
You and QDan are arguing much better, and that's good to see.
You and I have summat in common, Ollie, in that my IQ was measured by Mensa at 150 in 1980. But the tests I took for Dx in 1999 showed that my performance IQ was 2 standard deviations lower. There were other indications of discrepancies in abilities.
It's strange, about the things I learn. I can learn and pack facts in, but I can't really extract them without a "trigger". Many times, the questions on a test will serve as a trigger, but otherwise, I can't just summon them up. In a way, it feels like I'm a "pseudo-intellectual", because while I do know all these things, I don't normally have access to them.
As for current "points of contention", If there were a cure, then certainly, everyone would have the right to decide whether s/he wanted to take it.
But QDAn does have a point that (if there were a cure) parents would feel societal pressure to make that choice for their kids.
That wouldn't be freedom of choice.
On the other hand, parents of kids who are non-verbal, feces-smearing, might feel they were doing the right thing, regardless of how the kids felt about it.
And, surprise! I have another hand, and this one says that this debate is moot. It isn't a matter of "outlawing" a cure, because the realist in me says they're never going to find one. It's simply too complicated an issue.
They may find "indicators" that a fetus is likely to be autistic, but they won't be able to know to what degree. At some point, they may decide to terminate some fetuses because they're convinced these indicators are correct. And that will be as far as they get in your lifetime, Ollie.
I would prefer they spend the money on helping those of us who need it to have jobs, housing, and some sort of security network.
I don't think it's useful to waste time on people who feel so bad about themselves they have to hate on us, unless they're overrated film critics:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/08/first-michael-savage-then-denis-leary-now-rex-reed.html
Not even close, NDs were also mad about Rex Reed's sham review - we all were. Before I discovered Reed's offensive review of "Adam," I wrote a review of the movie of my own:
http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/08/jake-crosby-reviews-fox-searchlights-adam-movie-with-aspergers.html
You didn't offend me, Oliver. I mean, Rex Reed wasn't totally wrong in describing some of our challenges...except that, rather than empathize with us as people who have to face certain barriers because of our condition, he bashes us instead - calling us "idiot savants," saying we think about no one but ourselves and that we shouldn't have romantic relationships. That's the problem I have with his piece.
"Many normal people do find Aspergians repulsive, so they avoid us anyway."
Wouldn't be so sure of that - have you asked them?
"based on Jonathan's life experiences as parlayed through his fictional stories I would believe that it is true."
Ah, that's the problem. You shouldn't base anything on Jonboy's experiences, because IRL he happens to be a singularly unpleasant and disagreeable person. Always whining, always complaining, never anything good to say about anything. As you've verified yourself, even his mama paid through the nose to get him out of her house.
"Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexations to the spirit." (from Desiderata)
"Clay, have you even met Jonathan IRL?"
Nah, just what I've heard from a couple of people who do know him, HM and JN. Anyway, I was just yanking his chain. ;-)
That's for him and I to know, and you to wonder. As for the chain yanking, again, that's between him and me. You don't need to worry about it.
Hi, Oliver, I presume Clay means Jerry Newport and Hal Messinger. These are people I have known through autism activities. You know about Jerry. I guess Clay could have met Hal at an auttreat. and they would never say I was an unpleasant person or anything else deragatory about me so Clay is lying the way he always does.
I don't care what Clay says about me. Don't even bother having a dialogue with him. He is not even worth responding to.
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